navytown I needed some clarification on this verse not a diversion .I'm a believer not interested in a debate about faith in God or validity of Christian concepts
raymond frantz
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This week's Book study :the chicken or egg debate
by raymond frantz inthis week's book study has this to say on paragraph 11:.
11 all humans are by inheritance sinful and thus deserving of sins penaltydeath.
(romans 5:12) but jehovah finds no pleasure in the death of sinners.
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This week's Book study :the chicken or egg debate
by raymond frantz inthis week's book study has this to say on paragraph 11:.
11 all humans are by inheritance sinful and thus deserving of sins penaltydeath.
(romans 5:12) but jehovah finds no pleasure in the death of sinners.
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raymond frantz
it was foreign to me until I actually read romans 3:24 on biblehub and how 99% of other translations render the phrase "undeserved kindness" as grace .
The word fro grace in the original text is "charis" No Greek whether modern or ancient will describe "charis" as undeserved kindness .This phrase removes the idea of a free gift
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This week's Book study :the chicken or egg debate
by raymond frantz inthis week's book study has this to say on paragraph 11:.
11 all humans are by inheritance sinful and thus deserving of sins penaltydeath.
(romans 5:12) but jehovah finds no pleasure in the death of sinners.
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raymond frantz
This week's Book study has this to say on paragraph 11:
11 All humans are by inheritance sinful and thus deserving of sin’s penalty—death. (Romans 5:12) But Jehovah finds no pleasure in the death of sinners. He is “a God of acts of forgiveness, gracious and merciful.” (Nehemiah 9:17) Still, because he is holy, he cannot condone unrighteousness. How, then, could he show mercy to inherently sinful humans? The answer is found in one of the most precious truths of God’s Word: Jehovah’s provision of a ransom for mankind’s salvation. In Chapter 14 we will learn more about this loving arrangement. It is at once profoundly just and supremely merciful. By means of it, Jehovah can express tender mercy toward repentant sinners while maintaining his standards of perfect justice.—Romans 3:21-26.
"Jehovah's most wonderful provision for mankind's salvation is the ransom sacrifice " the paragraph says ,BUT when you read Romans 3:24 that is quoted in the paragraph it says the following :"24 and it is as a free gift+ that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness+ through the release by the ransom paid by Christ Jesus"
The free gift is : the undeserved kindness (=grace) which was made manifest or set in operation with the ransom sacrifice.
So the question is this : What came first Grace or the Ransom ? What is more important Jehovah's plan for man's salvation (=Grace) or the actual act that made it possible (=Ransom)?
Charisma a way to understand “Undeserved Kindness” (link to an article about undeserved kindness)
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Bible Highlights (from the book of Numbers) : Was Zipporah the Cushite wife of Moses in Numbers 12:1 ?
by raymond frantz inwas zipporah the cushite wife of moses in numbers 12:1 ?
(click the link above to readf the full post).
"now miriam and aaron began to speak against moses because of the cushite wife he had married, for he had taken a cushite wife.
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raymond frantz
Was Zipporah the Cushite wife of Moses in Numbers 12:1 ?
(click the link above to readf the full post)
"Now Mir′i·am and Aaron began to speak against Moses because of the Cush′ite wife he had married, for he had taken a Cush′ite wife." –Numbers 12:1
Was Zipporah the wife mentioned in Numbers 12:1 or had Moses remarried ? Was she an Ethiopian as some translations suggest or a Cushite ? And why would that make any difference ?
Some Bible commentators say that since Moses had been married to Zipporah for a long time she was not the one involved here, as any objection against her would have been raised long before. So they reason that Zipporah had died and Moses had remarried, this time selecting an Ethiopian woman, and that this remarriage was recent and raised the controversy. But the Bible does not say this, and the circumstances do not require such reasoning. Zipporah had been away from Moses, and now she rejoined him in the camp near Mount Sinai. It was soon after the camp began to move that the contention arose. Hence, while the marriage was not recent, the presence of Zipporah in the camp was.—Ex. 18:1-5.
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Colossians 1:15-16 and the word "other"
by yogosans14 in"he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.
all [other] things have been created through him and for him.
" (col. 1:15-17, for context.
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raymond frantz
Sorry I got late on this one ,answering the original post ,a have a couple of querstions :
1. You say there is another word for first born in Greek which Paul didn't use here .Which one is this word
2. You connect the verses in Collosians witht the verses in Psalms when two different languages are used there ,one Greek and one Hebrew .Do you mean the Hebrews meant the same thing when the Greek's refered to a "first-born"?
By the way the Greek word used there is prōtotokos(=πρωτότοκος) the common Greek word for first born
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[the] image
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Will anointed judge angels in heaven ? is there Scriptural evidence evidence to support this idea?
by raymond frantz inhow is it that christians judge angels, according to 1 corinthians 6:3?in 1 corinthians 6:3 paul says :" do you not know that we will judge angels?
then why not matters of this life?
" some have thought that by judging paul was speaking of christians being able to expel demons.
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raymond frantz
How is it that Christians “judge angels,” according to 1 Corinthians 6:3?
In 1 Corinthians 6:3 Paul says :" Do you not know that we will judge angels? Then why not matters of this life?" Some have thought that by ‘judging’ Paul was speaking of Christians’ being able to expel demons. But Christ’s followers already had been empowered to do that on occasion so how are we to interpret Paul's words ?
Questions from Readers from 1979 watchtower 12/1 ,small and interesting subject check on the link above
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Bible Highlights : Book of Numbers : What voice spoke to Moses in the Tent of Meeting according to Numbers 7:89 ?
by raymond frantz inanother highlight from the book of numbers that hasn't been commended thoroughly by the watchtower but nevertheless interesting .upon compelition of the tent of the meeting, jehovah's voice appears to be sounding from the cover of the ark of the covenant ,in previous occasions moses had to travel to the tip of the mountain sinai to converse with jehovah but now things have changed ,the article offers a few highlights on why that was the case and in which manner jehovah spoke to moses on that particular occasion .maybe you can use it on next week's highlights.... p.s :if anyone has anymore comments about this passage please let me know and i will add them on this post.. what voice spoke to moses in the tent of meeting according to numbers 7:89 ?.
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raymond frantz
Another highlight from the book of Numbers that hasn't been commended thoroughly by the Watchtower but nevertheless interesting .Upon compelition of the Tent of the Meeting, Jehovah's voice appears to be sounding from the cover of the ark of the covenant ,in previous occasions Moses had to travel to the tip of the Mountain Sinai to converse with Jehovah but now things have changed ,the article offers a few highlights on why that was the case and in which manner Jehovah spoke to Moses on that particular occasion .Maybe you can use it on next week's highlights...
P.S :If anyone has anymore comments about this passage please let me know and I will add them on this post.
What voice spoke to Moses in the Tent of Meeting according to Numbers 7:89 ?
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Qestions freom Readers 1962 ,2/1 :Will we know in the new system the names of the 144 000 that proved faithful to the end?
by raymond frantz inanother gem from the 1962 watchtower : questions from readers 2/1,p95will we know in the new system the names of the 144 000 that proved faithful to the end?this topic has not been discussed in recent years .will we know the names of the anointed that proved faithful to the end?
is there any scriptural basis for it ?
really good article backed from a couple of interesting verses ,enjoy.... .
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raymond frantz
Another gem from the 1962 Watchtower : Questions from Readers 2/1,p95
Will we know in the new system the names of the 144 000 that proved faithful to the end?
This topic has not been discussed in recent years .Will we know the names of the anointed that proved faithful to the end? Is there any Scriptural basis for it ? Really good article backed from a couple of interesting verses ,enjoy...
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Bible Highlights(this week) : What is the bitter water that an adulteress had to drink in Numbers 5:24?
by raymond frantz inin this week's bible highlights we read about the bizarre trial by ordeal that a woman had to undergo if she was under suspicion of adultery .in number 5:24 we read about this strange "bitter water" that she had to drink resulting if guildy to a sponteneous degeneration of her reproductive organs ,please read the rest of the article here for more clarification ,maybe you can use it this week during the bible highlights at the meeting.... what is the bitter water that a woman had to drink in numbers 5:24?.
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raymond frantz
In this week's Bible Highlights we read about the bizarre trial by ordeal that a woman had to undergo if she was under suspicion of adultery .In Number 5:24 we read about this strange "bitter water" that she had to drink resulting if guildy to a sponteneous degeneration of her reproductive organs ,please read the rest of the article here for more clarification ,maybe you can use it this week during the Bible Highlights at the meeting...
What is the bitter water that a woman had to drink in Numbers 5:24?
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Questions From Readers (w69, 2/15):Will Satan be dead in the Abyss ?
by raymond frantz inanother gem from the watchtower 1969 , back in those days the watchtower was engaged in the bible research to prove satan's actual condition in the abyss .
enjoy .... will satan be dead when he is in the abyss for one thousand years?.
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raymond frantz
Another gem from the Watchtower 1969 , back in those days the Watchtower was engaged in the Bible research to prove Satan's actual condition in the Abyss . Enjoy ...
Will Satan be dead when he is in the abyss for one thousand years?